Scott Kerr pauses, rests his chin
on his hands and ponders for a minute. The clink of
glass and burble of conversation overflows from the
other booths at Sputnik as the singer/guitarist of
Yellow Second composes his thoughts. His bandmates --
guitarist Josh Hemingway, bassist Brett Bowden and
drummer Jimmy Coles -- sip their beers in the silence.
Finally, Kerr speaks up in a soft, altogether humble
voice: "I'd rather not make this interview, if I can
have a say in it, about religion."
No problem. In fact, Yellow
Second's new disc, Altitude, couldn't have less
to do with the touchy subject of religion -- unless, of
course, you happen to round out your pantheon with such
deities as John Lennon, Paul McCartney, Rivers Cuomo
and Elliott Smith. Granted, that might actually cover a
sizable percentage of the world's population, which is
exactly as Kerr would have it. He wants to make music
"that can appeal to anyone, whether they understand
anything about music or not," he says. "But at the same
time, somebody who does know music can listen to it and
appreciate how it's put together."
And Altitude, a work of
universally infectious pop, certainly owns up to that
ideal. The disc casts a reverent look back at the
purity and craftsmanship of the Beatles, even as it
taps into the urgency and uncertainty of life in an age
of indie-rock cynicism. Still, there's no avoiding
Kerr's past as a guitarist for the defunct Five Iron
Frenzy -- a riotous ska-core outfit, not to mention the
most successful Christian act to ever come out of
Denver.
"I'm not exactly sure how I
want to answer this one," he says when asked about his
defection from Five Iron in 1999. "I felt creatively
stifled. I didn't really agree with a lot of the
direction of the band. But I didn't have an ax to grind
with them; I just wanted more autonomy. In Five Iron, I
didn't write any of the lyrics. I wanted to be able to
express myself, and I also wanted to take a very
different musical direction."
So while still a part of Five
Iron's roster, and inspired by groups like Nada Surf
and Superdrag, Kerr started writing songs and recording
demos that veered more toward unadulterated power pop.
"I think that there's still a
lot that can be done with pop music," he explains.
"I've always been a sucker for a good melody. But at
the same time, I like songs that are interesting.
There's not enough thoughtful pop music out there. I
love the Beatles. There's just something about it that
moves people."
Two of Kerr's Five Iron
bandmates, Dennis Culp and Andrew Verdecchio, were even
moved enough to come on board, and the group began
jamming on the side. "We didn't come up with a name or
have any shows or anything," Kerr remembers. "Five Iron
was still full-throttle, so we couldn't devote any kind
of time to it. I just wound up leaving it alone; it was
frustrating. When I left Five Iron was when I decided
to do this band full-time."
But Kerr didn't just leave
Five Iron; he left Colorado. In 1999, looking for a
change of pace and new opportunities for his music, he
moved to Seattle and rebuilt Yellow Second, filling out
the lineup with guitarist Matt Woll and brothers Jason
and Joey Sanchez on bass and drums. A year later, the
quartet released its debut, June One, and
started amassing a local following in the Northwest.
Being a former member of a band like Five Iron, with a
firm fan network in place across the country, certainly
didn't hurt Kerr and his new outfit. But at the same
time, he wasn't trying to milk his pedigree.
"I never really told anyone
that I was a former member of Five Iron Frenzy," he
asserts. "That first record was pretty mellow. I think
it was a reaction against all that hyper music we were
making in Five Iron. I kind of wanted to distance
myself from that. Not that I was ashamed of it or
anything. I just didn't really want to be compared to
them. But people found out anyway."
In the midst of the interest
generated by June One, Yellow Second recorded
the followup, Still Small. But even with bright
prospects on the horizon, Kerr began to feel a strain
within the band. "No one was in the position where they
could make the necessary sacrifices to take Yellow
Second to the next level," he explains. "They couldn't
tour. I also got tired of living in Seattle, and the
other guys didn't want to relocate."
So in 2002, before Still
Small had even been released, Kerr moved back to
Denver. Faced once again with reconstructing Yellow
Second, he called on some old friends, including
bassist Nathan Marcey of the Risk, Verdecchio on drums
and Hemingway, who had been a high school buddy of
Kerr's, on guitar When the chance came along to join
Yellow Second, Hemingway jumped on it.
"In Five Iron, Scott would
give me demo tapes of the songs he was doing,"
Hemingway recalls. "I appreciate the fact that [he]
always puts a lot of thought into everything he writes.
I was initially attracted to the fact that the casual
listener can hear his songs and be like, ŚWow, that's
cool.' But the more you listen to it, the more you can
dig into it. There are things there to find. It's
interesting on a lot of levels. There's a lot of depth,
but it's also catchy."
But for all the hooks and
smarts in evidence on Still Small, it's
Altitude that rises to the top of Yellow Second's
oeuvre. Full of churning tension and pensive
reflection, the disc touches on influences as varied as
Elliott Smith, Fountains of Wayne and Dear You-era
Jawbreaker while preserving Kerr's distinctive voice:
ragged yet sugary, intimate yet epic.
"I've often said that the only
reason I even started singing was because I couldn't
find anyone else to do it," Kerr remarks with a laugh.
"I'm not a naturally gifted vocalist. I just try to
deal with the limitations of my voice. I mean, I love
the Velvet Underground, and Lou Reed can barely stay in
tune at all. I kind of rely on the melody to bring out
the better characteristics of my voice."
But vocals aren't the only
thing Kerr is insecure about. As dipped in syrup as it
is, Altitude shivers with doubt and
apprehension, a nebulous mass of gloom and numb regret
haunted by half-open doors, ticking clocks and
straddled fences. "I don't know if it's just this
album, but those have definitely been recurring themes
in my life," Kerr confesses. "I guess I've just always
been trying to find certainty, or some measure of it. I
always kind of get a little down on myself."
The record's closer,
"Imaginary Friend," best illustrates Kerr's befuddled,
if hope-lined, heartache. Over lush riffs and chiseled
beats, he implores, "I'm troubled I'll wonder to the
very end/Why always I'm followed by my imaginary
friend/Just you run along/You haven't heard a word I've
said/Back where you belong/Confined within a book I've
read."
"That song talks about being
undecided and trying to figure out what you can
reasonably accept about the world," Kerr reveals.
"Again, I don't want to make this a religious thing,
but when you consider yourself a reasonable person, you
have to come to grips with the whole God thing. You
want to form your own opinions about the world you live
in, the universe and how you think you got here. You
want to ask those kinds of big questions."
Now, with the addition of
Bowden and Coles to the lineup -- not to mention a new
deal with the major-affiliated Floodgate imprint --
Kerr has a lot of reasons to place his faith in Yellow
Second. As poised for exposure and success as he is,
though, the band's leader has trepidations about his
unshakable status as an alumnus of the
ministry-centered Five Iron Frenzy.
"I always make it very clear
to everyone that I have no agenda," he maintains. "I'm
not comfortable with my life being a total open book. I
can appreciate the fact that people want to be able to
apply lyrics to the person who wrote them. That's what
pop songwriting, or good songwriting in general, is all
about -- people relating, being able to say 'I felt
like that once.'
"If I happen to sing about
religious stuff in an ambiguous way sometimes," he
adds, "it's just a personal thing. We're not trying to
make up people's minds for them. Yellow Second is just
a band."
Amen to that.